Stanford student launches beautiful.aiart.com selling AI-generated text art; Grimes-backed documentary in production
Jul 3, 2025 · Full transcript · This transcript is auto-generated and may contain errors.
Featuring Jacob Rintamaki & Ofira
in there. We got a bunch of We got a bunch of great stuff. Highly recommend seeing in theaters. Anyway, go check it out. F1 with Brad Pit will be on Apple TV soon. We have our next guest. Welcome to the stream. How are you doing? Uh could you guys introduce yourselves? I wasn't We weren't fully expecting two.
We're excited to have you all here. Thank you so much. Of course. So, I mean, maybe just to start out, um my name is Jacob. Uh I'm very excited to be here at the Temple of Technology, the fortress of finance capital of capital, the ultra. Very early, very early supporter. We appreciate you. We we we will remember.
Great to finally have you. So, just quick background. Um I'm currently a student at Stanford um along with Jack Whitaker, one of your old interns. And then uh right now I've been working for a lot GIL for the past wow it's like I think four or five months now.
Um and what I'm going to be talking about today with Ofira is wait first fit fit check. What what is this jacket? Oh yeah. No, this is um a Sun Micros Systemystems jacket that we got from the old seauite, one of my co-workers. Uh the Cleveland mafia of Ann, me, Peter Teal, a bunch of other folks.
Uh there's there's a bunch of Sun Micros Systems merch. Uh yeah. So, every time I wear this, I think that's that's kind of what you need. If you're going to a pitch meeting, if you're fundraising, this instantly gets you into the Letterman jacket of our industry. Yes.
Know it doesn't have Java on the back, but it does have Java on here. So, oh that's great. Incredible. That's amazing. Um, okay. So, give us the Yeah. Yeah. Give us the story and then OP quick intro as well would be great. Hi. Yeah. Um, my name's Oira and uh we're going to be talking about um large language model art.
Uh I actually I I invented um making artwork with language models like Chat GPT and Jacob has a really exciting project around that. Please wait. Break it down. You you you something on you there. You're you're the creator of AI art. Break that down. Yeah. One of them. Yeah.
No, she's ridiculously I I'm going to gasop her up for a moment. Um she invented a large portion of modern AI asy art. Um and is probably the world's best jailbreaker. OpenAI holds these competitions pretty regularly, like every couple months or so.
Um they invite people from all around the world to jailbreak their models. Usually people can't get past like one or two of the tests out of like a 20 test thing. Um just regularly wins them breaks everything. Like it's something where I was talking with Ben man who's one of the anthropic co-founders.
And even when we were discussing this, he's like, "Yeah, no. " Like there's still a lot of red teaming and CBRN, which is chemical, biological, uh, radiological, nuclear threats that like these artists in their communities, they just break through everything.
Like, and all the like I don't care what kind of MIT, PhD, like hire everybody like doesn't work. Like they're just they're killers. You know what? I was using the same techniques to make artwork.
So, back when Microsoft Bing came out in like summer of 2023, I got like, you know how you guys read poetry books sometimes and the poems are like arranged in these beautiful shapes? The words have like like this gorgeous shapetry. That's what I do with language models.
So, I actually first discovered that they could do that in the first place and I've made a whole beautiful art form out of that. So, this is not diffusionbased image generation. No, this is this is a language model doing it. Yes.
And so, just And so it's showing that's actually very interesting capability because it's showing spatial intelligence despite all it's doing is predicting the next token just like like you would normally get a chat reply, but it's doing it in these gorgeous shapes that very often actually reflect the content of the words.
Yeah, I've seen someone put out a benchmark for uh having LLMs uh basically interpret secret messages in Are you familiar with this? you draw uh you basically write out a sentence in a square box and the LLM gets really confused even though the human can oneshot it. It's kind of like an arc AGI for this type of thing.
But it's very fascinating that you're able to get good results because I thought that that's a place where LLMs were particularly weak, but it seems like you've been be able to break through. I think they also like one thing to note is that they don't naturally they're naturally not very good at this.
Like I think if either of you like both of you I feel like are fairly AI fluent but if you tried to go out and do this I don't think that you would get terribly interesting results at first. There's a lot like to get some of the artworks that are featured on beautiful art.
com going right now showing showing my stuff our stuff.
But um yes uh to go to go buy this um I usually like I mean Opera can speak on this like you want like sometimes it's like 30 40 even like hundreds of prompts that warm it up and go into these very weird places of distribution since if you think of modern language models they're pre-trained on the entire internet.
So the odds of like if it is on the internet you can probably make it. So for people saying like, "How do you make this art? How does this happen? " Like, if you just have creative enough prompts that go on for pages at a time, like you can just find anything on the internet, you can make all sorts of ridiculous stuff.
And that's how honestly I think you can get around these uh these jail kind of like these safety measures and so on is that if your if your training distribution is the internet, like anything on the internet, you can just you can go and find. So, give me the give me the announcement.
Uh, it sounds like you mentioned selling art on the internet. Have you processed your first sale? How much things cost? Uh, how many sales have you done? Can you give us a number? I I'm I'm I'm itching to ring the gong for you. I'm actually going to check right now. Pull up the Stripe dashboard. Let's see it.
Stripe dashboard. Um, it looks like we already have six orders. Um, congratulations. There we go. That's great news. Um, well, we'd love to have you back on when you hit a thousand sales or take it to the moon or put it in the What's What's the vision for beautiful art. com?
Are you going to add a bunch more artists over time? What does it look like? I think that my original thought was that first um all of these great artists, we just have to put something out there. We just have to ship, keep shipping.
So goal of today was launch, have all the payments set up, have all of the drop shippers, so that way we don't have to worry about inventory about uh shipping costs, etc. And yeah, no, a bunch of people from the NFT community have reached out. The crypto community has been pretty good to us.
Um I think that adding more artists is definitely on the list. And can talk about this. Yeah, I wish like I I just came on the show like I I found out about an hour ago maybe. So I you guys are going to admire my telephone today.
So, this is actually a poem by um a historical artist named Aldis Huxley called The Crystal Cabinet. Okay, cool. And um it's it's you can see like it's in the shape of a wing. Very cool. And it's very beautiful and it was interesting.
I I actually prompted a clawed opus 3 by anthropic to do that and it's very interesting. So, it's a whole conversation as Jacob describes and you actually say like, can you make this more like the shape of a wing for example?
And again, even though this is like like I can picture that in my head cuz I'm a human, but somehow the model is able to gradually refine the shape more and more like that. That's very very cool. Yeah. Very cool. Well, look forward to following along. Thank you so much for stopping by.
Uh wait, do you have a closing uh uh anything you want to say? A closing remark, I think, is something for people to keep an eye out for. Of can speak on this as well. Um but Grimes is making a movie about the AI artists.
Um and that's how part of like the impetus for launching this is that um there's uh filmmakers from cans uh that are right now filming Oira Janice some of the other artists um I'm going to feature. Yeah.
our our friend um our film our friend filmmaker Matt Zien um who we actually met through Grimes who was a huge fan of this artwork and a big supporter of it um is is hoping to film an independent documentary about kind of first contact with the AI models because so many of us have had like weird exper weird experiences right like you chat with it and it's not like talking to a computer it's like there there's a little something going on there so this is going to be kind of a I I would call myself like kind of further They're on the the edge of that.
It'll be about how we interact with models. So stay tuned for that. We'll wear TVPN merch in it. We'll be first TBPN at Cans. Fantastic. Fantastic. We'd love to see that. Uh thank you so much for stopping by. We'd love to have you on the so much to chat about, but have a great day. Great to see you guys.
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