Kalinda builds deep research AI for class action law firms — $60K revenue in 4 months, targeting world's first AI law firm

Sep 10, 2025 · Full transcript · This transcript is auto-generated and may contain errors.

Featuring Sayan Bhatia

Corporate athlete right there. Jenn, how you doing? Welcome to the stream. Welcome to the stream. Good to meet you. Yeah. Introduce yourself. What do you do? Hey, uh my name is Scion. Uh we're Kinda. That's a great name. Yeah. Um, we're basically a deep research for class action law firms. Okay. Interesting. Yeah.

Let's give it up for litigation. Litigation. Uh, what's the secret sauce? Is it is it just the the bad data in, bad data out? You got to get private data that's maybe behind some sort of wall. It's not scraped into the the pre-training weights of GPT5.

And so you have some cornered resource in the data or is it something in the architecture or something at the UI level? like where where's the interesting kind of like most startups at YC like a lot of it sits on the application layer. Sure.

Um most of it for for class action law firms is the scale at which they do things. You know they can have maybe 10 million pages for litigation. Oh wow. So with that kind of scale you can't obviously just toss them to check. Yeah. Be a hassle to just click upload another PDF upload another PDF. Upload another PDF.

And then the kind of second thing is like most of the data sort of sits sits in silos and kind of aggregating it all and making it sort of you know comprehensive like human would is is Would you ever would you ever go full stack? Would you ever start suing suing people yourself? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We uh we just America that's the American way. Let's go. Yeah. Watch out. Um Yeah. We we actually just said this in our in our pitch. We want to become the world's first class action law firm. Okay. Full stack. So full stack AI law firm. Yeah. AI law firm. Yeah. Nice. Fantastic. Uh how's traction?

What do you share at demo day? How's it going? How's the race going? Yeah. So we have about 60,000 in revenue in just the last four months since basically launching. Congrats. Uh we have three of the largest plaintiff law firms in the in the USing as customers. That's great. But yeah, it's going really well.

Pitch is uh was a little nerve-wracking at first, but got over it. Uh what what's it like selling into these firms so far? They seem to be responding well. Yeah. Mo much better than uh most would expect, I guess. Like they uh they probably don't know a lot about AI at all.

So you just kind of say it's magic and then has this been an overlooked category broadly just building software for this type of firm?

It feels like they just print cash and they're willing to spend um some of the numbers I've heard on like some of these even firms that like have a website, they look like a tiny business and they're just printing like $50 million a year. It's crazy. Yeah. Mo most settlements are a billion plus, but uh yeah, absolutely.

Like you know, because of natural language being so a lot easier with art gener gener AI, um they it makes it a lot easier. So, the kind of work they do is has basically been overlooked for practically ever. In fact, most of them are You can never throw software at it. Yeah. And most of them aren't even still paperless.

They still have lots of paperwork. They've just gotten over the the cloud, if you want to call it that. So, um Yeah. Cool. Uh lightning round. Who is your favorite entrepreneur of all time? Sam Alman. Sam. Just just because I've met him twice, but he's he's a goat. Uh second question.

How'd you make your first dollar online in business or on the internet? Uh cold call. Cold call. That's good. Uh it was actually so we the previous space that we were in was personal injury still law firms. Uh my brother he's an expert cold cold caller. Yeah.

Uh are you How did when did you realize you wanted to get into class actions and personal injury law? Uh well basically we literally about last summer we started walking into businesses cold just like saying hey we do AI we're both previously AI researchers like we we can probably solve your business problems.

Law firms were a huge part of it. So nice. Yeah. Based on where you sit in the stack, do you do you feel like you're GPU poor or GPU rich? Uh GPU rich, but GPU poor soon.